Bob Lazar, UFO and Area 51

Robert Scott Lazar is an American who claims to have been hired in the late 1980s to reverse engineer extraterrestrial technology at what he described as a secret site called Area 51. Lazar’s story is the subject matter of a Netflix documentary

“Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers”. #thehighersources answers questions on Lazar’s claims

Bob Lazar appeared in a few interviews were he revealed his experiences. The following two interviews reveal his experiences and the principles behind UFO propulsion.

 
 
 

 

Area 51 / S4 Questions

Q: Esteemed Higher Sources (HS), I am going to ask about many of the devices, technologies and other things mentioned in the long Joe Rogan show video.

Q: Was the basketball sized device a gravity machine?

HS: Yes, a gravity field generator.

Q: What good is a device like that which produces a gravity field only strong enough to push away a human hand? The guest said the push or repelling force would become stronger the closer a hand was placed, just the way it happens with two same polarity poles of two magnets pushed closer together. What good is that for a vessel the size Mr. Lazar describes he saw?

HS: The device was only idling when closed to switch it on. When the ship in which it is fitted begins to operate, more power is generated in proportion to velocity and movement. The device will produce enough force to suspend the mass of the vessel inside a gravity field of any strength. Neutralize the gravity effects operating on it, in other words.

Q: The faster the ship goes…

HS: The more gravity effect acts upon it from surrounding mass, principally the Earth. Think of moving an object through water; the faster the movement, the greater the resistance from the surrounding water.

Q: You cut off my question and went right to the answer!

HS: We read your thoughts; there is no time where we are.

Q: Eventually the velocity of an object moving through water, such as a surface boat's submerged portion of the hull or a submarine, will encounter resistance unable to be overcome and the object will attain terminal velocity. Falling objects experience this. In fact falling objects steadily slow down as they come closer to the surface, as surrounding air grows thicker, more dense. Doesn't that happen here also?

HS: No, because of the nature of gravitational and magnetic fields. Allow us a brief review of what we have already discussed here in the human past.

Gravity and magnetism are the same force, manifested in different ways. This is to say, both forces emanate from the inside of an atom and act upon the insides of other atoms, only. The forces you describe - such as physical resistance - are what occur between atoms, not inside them.

The purpose of using a heavy element, such as the 115 mentioned, is to produce a larger effect from a smaller volume of physical space. Atoms are almost entirely empty space, which can be compressed. The larger the molecule, the more gravitational or magnetic force which can be generated or extracted, or attracted also.

Magnetism involves the orbiting electrons; gravity comes from the pulsating core or nucleus.

Is everyone with me so far?

Q: I think I am but anybody can return to the point they prefer and re-start. Please go on….

HS: We have often said, magnetism is electricity without wires, electricity is magnetism with wires. This force - which produces both - emanates from electrons and does two things, it produces two effects; when of sufficient strength, it will push or bump electrons from one atom to another, which is one of the two effects. The other or second, simultaneous effect is: to attract the electrons of other atoms, and by association it attracts the entire atom and of course the molecules of which that atom is a part or component. Virtually all matter humans perceive is composed of molecules, or tightly connected atoms. Oxygen naturally pairs up in a molecule of two atoms, as a basic well understood example, and the list of combinations is almost endless. Human study of chemistry analyses and measures this accurately.

Gravity does not bump protons or neutrons from atom to atom. Doing so requires the atom to be ruptured or broken open, and this temporarily releases the energy which binds them together. Humans perceive this as an explosion. A bomb.

Limit the amount of material involved, to limit the effects.

The device does just this.

Q: The device does not get hot; Mr. Lazar mentioned this quite remarkably during the video and was amazed because we humans have learned that no energy device is completely efficient. There is always the production of residual heat but this device remains at ambient temperature. Why?

HS: It does not increase the pace or rate of atomic pulsation. We take as an example a microwave oven; the waves are tuned to a frequency where they affect molecules of water. Count the total number of protons, neutrons and electrons in two hydrogen atoms and one of oxygen; this number is unique and explains why water displays the properties well understood. Microwaves tuned to this unique mass will agitate the molecule - they are electromagnetic energy - and increase the rate of pulsation of the nuclei and also the rotation velocity of the electrons about the nuclei. This physical energy will transfer by convection to surrounding material otherwise not affected by the tuned frequency of the microwaves. The plate upon which damp or wet material is placed will become warmer, but the porcelain or clay plate itself will not be affected if placed inside the water tuned microwave field alone, in the absence of moisture, the absence of molecules of water.

The device does not produce effects which increase molecular agitation; the energy re-direction it causes is limited to the intra-atomic energy inside neutrons, protons and electrons and the forces which hold and move the electrons in orbit.

Q: Why does the device get stronger or produce more effect, when the alien ET vessel moves?

HS: We refer to basic physics of electricity humans understand well; just a circuit will distribute voltage among the several resistances present in the loop, in precise and exact proportion to the amount any one resistance presents to the total resistance of the circuit, so will gravity and magnetism attach to an object in exact and precise proportion the mass an object represents to the total mass of both the gravity generator and object or target.

This why objects of vastly different mass will fall at precisely the same rate or speed. The larger the object, the greater the amount of Earth generated gravity it will attract. Ten tons will fall the same as ten grams, ten ounces or any two amounts.

This device reverses gravity and produces a counterforce precisely equal to the gravity acting upon it, which neutralizes the net effect.

Movement is then achieved with magnetism, specifically magnetic field differential. In summary, the object will not fall and can be made to rise if its gravitational force exceeds equilibrium. It can both hover and climb.

Q: What about magnetic propulsion?

HS: The basketball device - we like this name - does not provide propulsion; which is a different, separate device or system. Just as humans long ago discovered that horizontal and vertical motion are independent. A small, several gram pellet dropped next to the muzzle of a firearm, over a flat surface at the precise moment a fired slug exits the barrel, will strike the common flat surface at exactly the same instant as does the bullet a thousand meters distant. Movement caused by either magnetic or physical force is independent of gravity.

Q: How then does the vessel descend from an altitude of 80,000 feet - more than 24,000 meters - in less than one second, then stop?

HS: Magnetic propulsion is added to the gravity pull, after the gravity neutralization device is switched off. Magnetism can be used to move an object in any direction. Once the desired altitude of say, 50 feet or 15 meters is reached, the gravity production device is re-energized as the magnetic force is shut off. The vessel stops and hovers.

Q: How do the occupants survive these forces?

HS: The gravity is neutralized for them also; they feel no effects beyond the normal gravity the ship is designed to produce, the same they would feel on the surface of their natural planet.

Q: What about lateral or sideways movement? The 90 degree turns taken at 25,000 kph? How do the occupants not get crushed against the insides of the ship?

HS: The gravity production device neutralizes all such non-magnetically induced forces. The occupants feel no effects. Many such flying objects and craft are not occupied, so the anti-gravity concern is lessened somewhat, however equipment inside sometimes also requires this protection.

Q: Why do some of these objects move so fast but others much more slowly?

HS: Your alien extraterrestrial cousins and visitors live in environments where the relative differentials of speed are the same as yours on Earth. They enjoy watching and observing just as you do and would, in any new environment. When they disable concealment, it is intentionally done to reveal their ship or vessel. 25,000 kph is far too fast for human eyes to capture.

Q: Gravity pulls; how can it push also?

C: This is achieved by reversing the polarity of the intra-atomic movement. The electrons orbit the other way, the neutrons and protons revolve about each other in a reverse pattern flow.

Q: How can this be done?

HS: Reverse the polarity of the magnetic field or electricity applied to the device. Humans consider reversal of polarity to be opposite flow direction; this is not what we mean. Reversal of polarity for generation of gravity or magnetism means to reverse the direction the three point triangle moves through four stop points, which creates the neutron, proton or electron.

Q: Can be gravity be made to push away or repel, the way it seems to naturally attract or pull things towards it?

HS: Of course, both are achieved just as easily.

Q: Why did the device, when cut open, kill the people in the immediate area? Why weren't other people nearby not killed? How far away will the killing effect extend?

HS: Because these experimenters did not know that opening it would shut it off. It did shut off although not properly, once it was cut open and damaged. This saved other lives. The killing effect extends as far as barriers to the x-ray and gamma ray radiation prevent it. In the case of these devices in the rooms and buildings in question, the lethal effect, requiring more time exposure the farther from source a victim is located, extended to about fifteen meters, to the shielded walls of the test and exam room.

Q: What's such a device made of that no radiation escapes?

HS: Alloys unknown on your planet. As you know, metallurgy on Earth largely involves mixture of component metals and substances. These devices are made of alloys which are chemical compounds of other base metals, much the way it is common for sodium and chloride to combine and produce a substance with properties completely different from the base elements.

The principle obstacle is the human inability to identify the materials, the metallic parts, of this device. Human technology does not yet allow chemical manufacture of metals to this extent.

These metals completely absorb radiation. The foils found, then used to protect lunar capsules passing through the Van Allen radiation belts were made in a similar fashion.

Q: Why is there no heat felt? Why does the heat stay inside?

HS: There is no additional heat produced to dissipate. The changes to intra-atomic movement do not increase the movement of atoms which defines heat as you understand it.

Q: Why did or does the device automatically start working when it is closed, and why does it automatically stop when opened?

HS: For protection. You wish to know how it starts and operates, an important part of the question.

The device is able to be re-opened to add more heavy element fuel; generally there is no need to do so otherwise. The internal radiation, if allowed to escape, will harm any living being on Earth or any planet. This is why cutting it open at any point bypasses the shut down process and exposes anyone present to lethal radiation.

The beginning of the process requires a high voltage burst of electrical energy, which is stored in a battery and a capacitor, made of some materials yet unknown on Earth, used in a combination also not known. It would be easy enough to understand if demonstrated and explained, but it remains unknown as we communicate this information.

This burst of electricity lasts a few milliseconds, more than sufficient to charge the reaction. This is done by reversing polarity of direction the several million volts approximately once each millisecond. The bumping of the electrons at this voltage drives them in a reverse direction by turning the atom. This occurs at a velocity well above the speed of electricity or light, which humans mistakenly but still generally believe is the limit. Turning the atom as the electrons are halted and pushed into a reverse orbit does two things; it reverses also the internal rotation of the atomic component triangle and briefly intensifies the release of excess energy used to hold the electron in orbit.

This is gravity.

Q: What was the interesting development or discovery Mr. Lazar mentioned?

HS: Parts of the process were discovered and understood.

Q: What materials is the device made of?

HS: You do not know these on Earth in some cases. Gold, titanium and a few others such as rhodium are often used.

Q: Is the fuel inside it a naturally occurring element on the device manufacturers' home world or planet or in their solar system?

HS: Yes.

Q: Do these alien ET ships come from a civilization in the Zeta Reticuli system or constellation?

HS: Yes.

Q: Do these devices operate forever or will they eventually shut down and stop working?

HS: They will shut down and have, in several cases.

Q: Why were or are there nine ships or vessels?

HS: One crashed; the remainder were given as gifts although humans believe two more crashed or were forced to land without a damaging impact. The remainder were given as donations, and humans were told this. The vessels are scout ships which came from a much larger mother vessel never revealed to humans.

Q: What was the material Mr. Lazar mentioned was used to make the ships?

HS: It is a composite ceramic and metallic substance.

Q: Why were there no right angles inside?

HS: The vessels are molded, including right angles is too much design work and effort, which serves no purpose.

Q: Why did there not seem to be instrument or control panels?

HS: These are created by a holographic projection. Humans do not easily recognize the projector devices inside which do this.

Q: Why was or is the vessel so stark and barren otherwise?

HS: It is not occupied for long intervals where decoration or aesthetics need consideration.

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